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Thoughts from our Brothers in the Military Part 5

Tuesday, October 9th, 2007

From another non-comissioned officer …

C.S. Lewis has a lot to say about serving in war as a believer in his book The Weight of Glory in the chapters Learning in War time and Why I am not a Pacifist. Like Lewis believed about WWII, I believe our cause to be righteous and even further, I believe it’s our nation’s duty to at least attempt to help a less fortunate nation – even when it’s tough. It’s unfortunate though, this modern war in Iraq will likely not have the same outcome as WWII, because people in America (and Iraq ) aren’t united to the cause of good as Americans were in WWII.

I think if the greater good would come from the decision to go to war, then war (although tragic) is justified. I think it rational to say that peace under (or Islam) would in no way be better than a war preventing his (its) rule (terror). But “To call it useless because it did not also cure slums and unemployment is like coming up to a man who just succeeded in defending himself from a man-eating tiger and saying ‘It’s no good old chap. This hasn’t really cured your rheumatism!’” (p. 74).

I think Lewis’s strongest point about war is made in on page 75ff though. To summarize, he said good countries should do good things for other countries. But no single country has resources to do good things for all countries in need. In the process of helping A, it neglects B. So it therefore makes sense that the good country should choose to help the country who is a benefactor and neglect the one who has no special claim on it. However sometimes “it involves helping A by actually doing some degree of to B” because B is threatening A.

Also consider the following excerpt:

The doctrine that war is always a greater evil seems to imply a materialist ethic, a belief that and pain are the greatest evils. But I do not think they are. I think the suppression of a higher religion by a lower, or even a higher secular culture by a lower, a much greater evil. Nor am I greatly moved by the fact that many of the individuals we strike down in war are . That seems, in a way, to make war not worse but better. All men die, and most men miserably. That two soldiers on opposites sides, each believing his own country to be in the right, each at the moment when his selfishness in most in abeyance and his will to sacrifice in the ascendant, should kill [each] other in plain battle seems to me by no means one of the most terrible things in this very terrible world (p. 77-78).

I would take it even further and say that when women and children die resulting from collateral damage war, (although unjust), it is not the worse evil that could have happen to them. Their own countrymen could be doing far more damage to them in life, than the attacking country has done in them unintentionally. (This I know to be the case from experience in Afghanistan and Iraq .)

Finally, I believe even in a corrupt society there can be righteous individuals in that society’s military who do good things wherever they’re sent. (Wasn’t this the case with Cornelius, officer in the Roman Empire from Acts 10.) Additionally, When soldiers, working for a corrupt establishment, asked Jesus how they should live, (Luke 3:14) he did not instruct them to defect. He told them not to treat people poorly and be satisfied with their pay.

There may be a lot of corrupt decision makers involved in the process of this war, but in no way do I see those decisions inhibiting the righteous work of individuals among the foreign nation we’re in. Furthermore I believe the ultimate attempt was for us to help Iraq , not harm it.

There’s still a lot of good work to be done in the Kingdom through the military. In the military people go to countries where missionaries do not. Also the duties for which military members perform can be, from the individual standpoint, used for good or evil. “All our merely natural activities will be accepted if they are offered to God, even the humblest, and all of them, even the noblest, will be sinful if they are not” (p. 54).

The only thing I would say is that it would not be good for a soldier to serve his country like God is to be served. About WWII, Lewis explained to his readers they shouldn’t allow the war “to absorb our whole attention, because it is a finite object and therefore intrinsically unfitted to support the whole attention of the human soul” (p. 52). And also, “A man may have to die for his country, but no man must, in any exclusive sense, live for his country. He who surrenders himself without reservation to the temporal claims of a nation, or party, or class is rendering to Caesar that which, of all things, most empathetically belong to God: himself” (p. 53).

Now, I know this war is very different from WWII, and what we were fighting for then was a lot different – but that doesn’t mean everything in WWII was good natured. There was corrupt stuff that went on then too. As believers in the military we have to be responsible for our individual decisions, and let God judge those above us for their decisions with the army their using. The only way a soldier should disobey an officer over him is if the command involved doing something God explicitly forbids. Otherwise, the command of Romans 13 to be obedient to your government is in play.

Britt, on the Luke 6 argument, consider this as well:

According to C.S. Lewis when Christ spoke these words recorded in Luke, there was a specific application for them his audience would not have missed.

Does anyone suppose our Lord’s hearers understood him to mean that if a homicidal maniac , attempting to a third party, tried to knock me out of the way, I must stand aside and let him get his victim? I at any rate think it impossible they could have so understood him. I think it equally impossible that they supposed him to mean that the best way of brining up a child was to let it hit its parents whenever it was in a temper, or, when it had grabbed the jam, to give it the honey also. I think the meaning of the words was perfectly clear – “Insofar as you are simply an angry man who has been hurt, mortify your anger and do not hit back” (p. 86).

He goes on further to say that if a person were in an official position, like a parent, or a court judge, or a soldier, “your duties may be very different because [there] may be then other motives than egotistic retaliation for hitting back” (p. 86).

Peace.

Thoughts from our Brothers in the Military Part 4

Friday, October 5th, 2007

From an non-commissioned officer:

For your first question …
As it says in Colossians 3:23-24, “Whatever you do, do your work as for the Lord rather than for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance It is the Lord Christ whom you serve.”

And your second one …
Quite true that we are to love our enemies; however, God did tell the Israelites to wipe out another culture (though at this moment I cannot recall who). Granted, the argument can be made that He did not call us to war, but then again no one knows the mind of the Lord. And we do not know what or how he has instructed our president.

Peace.

Thoughts from our Brothers in the Military Part 3

Thursday, October 4th, 2007

From another officer in the military …

To be honest, being in the military has taught me a LOT about God. There are times I have to do things that I really don’t want to do, and support things I don’t really care to support. Through it all I’ve learned that it’s okay to sing along to the company song … even if you don’t like the words. Whether the military is a “godly” career choice I’m still unsure of (I probably should have thought of that before, huh?). There are so many military-esc analogies in the Bible that I feel we have a good grasp on that others perhaps don’t.

#1) Not sure how to answer this question. It’s not that I don’t understand it, but I really don’t have a good answer. I think you could extend the same question to anyone … a baker, a shoe salesman, a teacher … how do they do what they do here on earth while being a citizen of another Kingdom. I guess I don’t see the military as being unique or a special case. I suppose my primary citizenship almost strengthens my devotion for the other because I know deep down the military doesn’t truly own me. I’m free to do a great job because I know my value, living, provisions and worth don’t come from there.

#2) I suppose I look at these verses as instructions for individuals as opposed for a government or state faction. Truly, these verses could be balanced out with Luke 20:25, Titues 3:1, and Romans 13 1-10. Romans talks about our neighbor and loving him/her. However, loving doesn’t mean approving or passively sitting by. If I’m supposed to love my neighbor as I love myself, this goes far beyond kindess or “being nice”. Thinking about how I love myself I consider that I don’t approve of everything I do … there are occasions where I think I should be punished. I read that somewhere in a CS Lewis book … can’t remember which one though as it’s been a while. The Romans verse talks about doing no harm, however punishment is definitely not harm and may in fact be a saving/ restorative act.

While Biblically the military is never endorsed explicitly, there were lots of God-gathered, hand picked armies in the old testament. Even when Jesus meets the centurion in the New Testament he doesn’t rebuke him for his occupation but commends his faith. I’m not saying that this means he’s giving a thumbs up for military service, but it’s interesting that he doesn’t say a thing about it.

As you can tell from reading this, I haven’t done a whole lot of thinking about the topic. I suppose because I see it like every other occupation: to perform a task as effectively as possible. To everything, there is a season, including a time for war. I’m grateful for these pacifist folks and they’re beliefs, I guess I just see so many more conundrums of greater magnitude and less worthy causes then the military.

I don’t think war and nations raging against each other is by any means God’s perfect plan. I think he’s entered into a relationship with humanity and that is a messy business. It’s like a parent that wants their child to grow up to be a confident, secure, caring person … but for now they have to deal with a screaming, selfish infant with little bowel control.

Peace.

Thoughts From our Brothers in the Military Part 2

Wednesday, October 3rd, 2007

From a captain in the Air Force:

In principle, I have no problem reconciling being in the military with being a Christian. I see the military as a means of defense, an extension of my responsibility to protect my own family from those who would attack us. The simple and often-used example of fighting against someone who is attempting to rape or kill my wife is, I think, very relevant. The correct response would not be to ignore this individual, to turn the other cheek. Aside from my responsibility to protect my wife, would it even be loving to this individual? Wouldn’t it be more loving to cause him to feel pain, to reap consequences to his actions … consequences that may turn him to God in search of mercy and grace. Another example that helps to clarify is my responsibility in raising my son. If he hits my wife in the face, my wife should not turn the other cheek, but rather, because we love him, we should discipline him in a loving way to teach and train him in what is right. So maybe loving people (even our enemies) doesn’t always seem friendly and sweet.

For me, this gets more confusing if the country I am defending begins to use the military for purposes that stretch beyond defending ourselves, or even defending others. Is that the case in Iraq right now? Are we actually there just to protect our own riches? Are we making our nation any safer? Should we just wait here in the States and only attack when we are conventionally attacked? I don’t have answers to those questions. As a military member, I trust my leaders to see the bigger picture and make these decisions. If, however, it became very clear to me that we were involved in a war that was unjust, I would leave the military. That is not the case right now. Just like many others, I have questions about how this war got started and is being conducted, but I do not have a settled clarity that this war is wrong.

Peace.

Thoughts From Our Brothers in the Military part 1 — the Question

Tuesday, October 2nd, 2007

About three or four months ago, I got this idea to send a question to some of my brothers and sisters in the military and get their feedback for everyone (I would call them “the troops”, but I’m not a Fox News spot …).

Okay, so today I will share with you my question. Over the next couple days, I will share a handful of responses, unedited, as I received them. I will not be giving names for two reasons: first of all, some have delicate jobs (like intelligence and so forth) and do not want their name plastered all over the internet. Some of these people have been to Afghanistan or Iraq or may even be there now. Second, I would like to protect them from any comments that might get personal.

Either way, please show respect when you comment. Share your thoughts, but share realizing these are individuals who are personally involved in protecting your butt, and many even feel personally called by God to do so, despite some theological thoughts to the contrary.

Here was the email that I sent:

First of all, hello to all of you, some of whom I’ve heard from lately … others I haven’t in a while … I love you all and hope you are doing well, are safe, and are able to praise the Lord in all circumstances.

Being envolved with some people back here in the States, I have heard and read much from many Christians in America that are a part of this new movement against war in general and practice, especially the war in Iraq. Through my time in Korea with the coolest military dudes in the world (uh … you guys!), I’ve learned to appreciate even more the sacrifice and the lifestyle of our military members. While I argue and speak as I’m led by the Lord, it is not my calling to be in the military. Therefore, I would like to hear some feedback from those I respect in the Lord who happen to fight for their country.

If any of you are so led, please answer the following questions with your own thoughts, experiences, or anything that might help, in love, to explain God’s place for you within the military.

1. How do you reconcile your primary citizenship, your inclusion in the Kingdom of God, with fighting for a worldly kingdom, namely America?

2. How are you fulfilling the commandments of Christ, as expressed in Luke 6:27-38 (I would recommend reading it) about loving your enemies, by participating in war?

Again, I’m not challenging your calling. I’ve lived among you and seen Christ in you. But I feel these are valid questions. So when I attempt to defend your calling, it seems presumptous at times, and I would like to have your thoughts and responses.

Just to let you know, I am considering placing this on my blog as a series or as an article, depending on how many responses I get.

Love you all,

Britt